Lost Update - Season V Finale - 05/13/2009
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time for every purpose, under heaven
A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep
A time to build up, a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together
A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of peace
A time you may embrace, a time to refrain from embracing
A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to rend, a time to sew
A time to love, a time to hate
A time for peace, I swear its not too late
With so many story line twists and turns ABC's Lost has had in it's five year run so far, tonight's choice for title and song lyrics was simple. And critical! The rock and roll band The Byrds made the song popular going all the way to #1 in 1965 but that isn't the reason the Grassy Knoll Institute chose this most important title for the season finale.
The lyrics were taken from the King James Bible, the book of Ecclesiastes, 3:1. King Solomon is strongly suggested as the author of the lyrics. Each line of the song depicts an event and core arc of the past five years of Lost and with only one season left, the last line offers some hope that Lost has not lost itself.
With such a strong biblical tie in for Lost over the past seasons, we the faithful viewers have endured the dreaded writers strike, DUI's forcing the termination of key characters, Richard Alpert's eyeliner, (RA) Sawyer and his lost shirt, Kate whoring around, Ben always lying, Locke in search for Jacob, Hurley in search for a sandwich, Jack flip flopping more often than IHOP, and the tantalizing Juliet Burke, and her amazing rack.
Just one more time for this season, I will explain how this all fits into my Grassy Knoll Institute's Lost theory, including Juliet's rack.
Although it appears the survivors of Oceanic flight 815 are on a tropical island, they are being deceived. There is no island. The survivors are in a virtual reality laboratory. All the castaways are interconnected to one another sharing each others thoughts, memories, and feelings. While in this virtual reality laboratory, a battery of physical and mental experiments are performed on them. And who is running these experiments? As Juliet stated, the Aliens of course.
In tonight's lost season five finale, we get a good look at Jacob, and we get a good look at the front of the statue, and we get a hell of a look at Juliet's rack. (Am I obsessing? I can never tell!)
Let me begin with the conversation Jacob and the unknown man were having on the beach as they watched the Black Rock ship come ashore.
Unknown Man: You're still trying to prove me wrong.
Jacob: You are wrong!
Unknown Man: They come, fight, they destroy, they corrupt. It always ends the same.
Jacob: It only ends once. Anything that happens before that, it's just progress.
Tonight's episode, nay, the entire Lost series, has been about choice. And the test of courage, strength, love, hate, pain, and faith, that help cultivate that choice.
For five years, I have stated that the castaways have been in a state of virtual reality being studied and experimented on. I continue that belief with a stronger conviction than ever. The above conversation depicts exactly what happened to the Oceanic Flight 815 castaways. "They come, fight, they destroy, they corrupt." The same can be said for the Dharma Institute crew. And the French expedition. And the Black Rock ship. And the "Others!"
They were all given a scenario and allowed to play out said scenario to it's logical conclusion. As with any experiment, it must be conducted time and time again to prove the results. A control group and control scenario is implemented to achieve the best case pristine data. Hence, the island and two groups, the perceived good versus evil groups. Each group is then given a choice, and then tested on that choice. Notice during the previous five seasons characters changed, some becoming evil, some good, some becoming leaders, and some relinquishing the leader position.
This is what the unknown man was conveying to Jacob in the opening segment. The experiment always concludes the same way. Hence, the experiment is over. No need to continue. But for Jacob, he wanted more data. For what reasons. At this juncture, quite unknown.
What we do know are several constants. One, Ben always lies. It's what he does. Two, Richard is more than an eyeliner ageless man. Three, you knew it was coming, Juliet has a hell of a rack. Four, Kate's pants are becoming tighter as each season progresses. (Not that that is a bad thing mind you) Five, for a thug, Sawyer always gets his ass kicked. Tonight by a surgeon no less. Six, I thought I would have ten, but we'll keep it at five.
To bolster my virtual reality theory, let's analyze Jacob and his interactions with the castaways.
Jacob meets Kate as a young girl as she is stealing a lunch box. This is when Kate's path turned for the bad. Jacob even asks Kate if she is ever going to steal again.
Jacob meets Sawyer as a young man. At his parents funeral, while he was writing his hate and revenge note that would shape his life. Jacob offers his pen to help Sawyer complete his note.
Jacob meets Sayid at the exact moment Nadia gets run over and murdered turning Sayid into a hateful and vengeful man. He tells Sayid he thinks he's Lost!
Jacob meets Ilana. While at the hospital, where she has apparently went through a horrific accident. Jacob asks if he can count on her. She nods yes.
Jacob meets Locke just after he was pushed by his father out the window left to die.
Jacob meets Jin and Sun at their wedding offering them a toast in perfect Korean. A marraige that set in motion Jin's job as a brute roughing people up for money and Sun's adulterous life.
Jacob meets Jack, right after Jack's first surgery, where he got dressed down by his father in the OR. This was the start of his hatred for his father. Jacob said all he needed was a little push.
Jacob meets Hugo at the mental hospital. Tells Hugo he has a choice, to either get on the plane, or not to.
All of these interactions with Jacob were scientists interviewing possible candidates for their experiment. A test group of varying cultures, beliefs, age, sex, (Yes please!) health, and back ground. I'm sure as season six unfolds, we will learn that Jacob has met all the castaways at some point in their lives.
Before I get back to my theory, allow me to present some
Tidbits From Tonight's Episode:
* What's in the crate? Sort of like What's in the hatch in season two.
* Locke was in the crate. And dead. Not just mostly dead, but completely dead.
* Rose and Bernard surface. They have been living in peace and harmony for the past three years by themselves. Perhaps they are the one anomaly of the experiment and perhaps why Jacob wants to continue his research. Perhaps there is hope for humanity after all.
* The ash around Jacob's hut was broken.
* About the hut, did you see the tree to the right of the hut? It reminded me of the tree of life that was spoken about in the Bible.
* Richard Alpert. (RA) Or Ra, the Egyptian god.
* Ben asks, what about me?
* We die together, not alone.
* Notice the statue. In my April 30th update, Eclipse, I stated: Food for thought for the upcoming season five finale.
Ben, Jacob, Richard, Widmore, Faraday, and Locke. Can one or all of these men be the famed Egyptian god Horus, the son of Osiris and Isis? Legend has it that Horus was conceived magically after the death of his father (Osiris) and Isis (His mother) hid him away on an island to protect him from Set. He was worshipped as a child and was adamant to gain his mother’s protection for the worshipper.
I am throwing this out there for the finale will reveal the front of the statue, the four toed statue that was shown briefly in several episodes so far. The statue is Taweret, the Egyptian goddess of motherhood and protector.
The Season five finale will be the beginning of the end for the time travel arc and will push season six in a new direction. A virtual reality direction. It’s my time now.
* I checked Jacob and the unknown man wearing the sandals, to see if he had four or five toes, he had five.
* And finally, the very end, when the Lost logo appeared. Notice that it was reversed, dark letters against a white back ground instead of the standard white letters against the dark back ground. Perhaps signaling that once was good, is now bad, once was right, is now wrong.
I'll leave you with one more argument about my theory. For this, we must have a flash back of our very own. Come with me on this journey. I will return you safely, I promise.
Look at the scenario the writers painted. Time travel, not just once, and not just people, but the entire island, and not just that, but some went back in time, some went to the future, and some interacted with themselves. How does one explain that in one theory?
So we have that. We also have the people that have died on the show that come back to life. And interact with the people that are alive. John Locke is a prime example. Ben killed him. Now he is back. How does one explain that in a theory?
Wait, there's more. The island also heals people. But not everyone. The island heals only the people it wants to heal. Like Locke, who was crippled but can now walk. And Rose. And Charlie. But not Ben. How does one explain that in a theory?
Not to mention a mysterious invisible man named Jacob that lives in a cabin and runs the entire island. How does one explain that in a theory?
Richard Alpert. A man that doesn't age. (And wears to much eyeliner) How does one explain that in a theory?
The smoke monster. Enough said there. A freaking smoke monster loose on the island that attacks people at will. How does one explain that in a theory?
There are only two ways to explain all these strange occurrences happening on the island. Either it's a remake of Rod Serling's Twilight Zone, or the castaways are in a virtual reality simulation being experimented on.
I now return control of your computer screen to you. But wait,...
Attention Lost Fans! Just because the season finale has aired doesn't mean the updates will stop coming. All summer long I will be spotlighting the entire cast of characters and how they fit into the canon of Lost lore.
Next Week's update will spot light five castaways.
Until next week, Get Lost!
LURKING ON THE GRASSY KNOLL
Wassup man..
ReplyDeleteLast year, when the season ended, I vowed to watch all the Twilight Zone episodes, but stopped in season 4. Anyways, there have been quite apparent parallels between them and Lost.
I think at the very first, or second episode, we will know if the virtual reality theory will be correct. It's even been said by some other commenters from seasons ago that some characters may seem as if they had been on the island before. Perhaps it is cycle that will continue with some changes in the variables.
I don't think Jabob is dead, or even if he can be killed.
I also don't think there are two Lockes. Part of the loophole may be that Locke managed to get both off the island while staying on, causing two of them, where one is dead.
Maybe after watching all 5 seasons of the twilight zone I'll have a better theory on where Lost is headed. It's just the virtual reality theory comes from its very first episode.. it would honestly be kind of disappointing, but we'll see.
I'll be coming back for your updates!
Who is the other guy that sits with Jacob on the beach? And why does he want to kill Jacob so badly?
ReplyDeleteDid Mr. LOTGK get to see the new Star Trek movie? Tiny SPOILER.....it involves time travel...how shocking.
As soon as I saw the Lost pilot, I thought of the Twilight Zone, which happens to be my favorite show.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Jacob is dead either. If all the unknown man had to do was put a knife in Jacob's chest, he would have done it a long time ago.
And yes, I believe by the 3rd or 4th episode in season six the focal point will emerge. will it be virtual reality, I can only hope.
And thank you for reading and commenting.
Perhaps he is the fabled Egyptian god Osiris.
ReplyDeleteAnd no, I have not seen the Star Trek movie yet, but will soon. And by watching the previews and seeing Spock (Nimoy) going to visit his younger self, (Quinto)I figured as much.
Did you notice when Jacob visited each person he touched them? He touched Kate on the nose, handed Sawyer the pen, touched Locke on the shoulder, handed Jack the candy bar, etc. That has to mean something!
ReplyDeleteI noticed the touching, too, Newbie.
ReplyDeleteI wondered if perhaps Jacob was traveling back in time and touching them at their critical moments - changing something about the people that would prevent them from being at the point in their lives where they ended up on flight 815.
If they never crash on the island, they never return to the island. If they never return to the island, then Zombie Locke isn't around to convince Ben to kill Jacob.
for some reason, the unknown man cannot put a knife in Jacob's chest. Perhaps that was the loophole they referenced in the beginning on the beach, and then again under the foot when Jacob says to Zombie Locke, "I see you found your loophole."
ReplyDeleteMaybe the other guy is Esau.
ReplyDeleteTouched by God himself!!! :D
ReplyDeletePerhaps he was merely sizing them up, collecting his control set, evaluating what "choice" each would make.
ReplyDeleteYes, perhaps having another of their own free will do the deed. Ben is the perfect candidate.
ReplyDeleteIs it possible that jacob and whomever was with him in the opening are good/evil or god/devil or yin/yang. the devil can't kill god, he has to persuade someone else to do it - he has to find a "loophole".
ReplyDeleteAlso, and this is probably really out there but... the idea that the island is purgatory has floated around for a while. Is it possible that the characters of good/evil or god/devil or yin/yang only exist together in the moment of the great light coming from the sky? Is that light signifying a judgment day? Do each of the characters represent one of the seven deadly sins or a breaking of one of the ten commandments. Do they have to, as the church requires, confess and make contrition?
That thing that Jacob was making said something in greek. What it says confirms my theory on the island being the Pearly Gates.
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ReplyDeleteI'm curious as to why Jacob said after Ben stabbed him "They are coming". And I think it is significant that Locke#2 supplied Ben with a knife to kill Jacob instead of a gun,as guns seem to have played a big part throughout the show. I also still feel that the magnetic energy has played a big role in the time travel issue.
ReplyDeleteBut most of all I find it "sacreligous" that things have been compared to the Bible. I don't think God would be very unhappy with the comparison, for in the book of Revelation, there is a verse which says, For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:Revelation 22:18. Surely, things are being added, based on the show, if it is trying to show similarity to the Bible.
What a great finale. We get to see who Jacob is and where he lives and the face of the ststue. Does anyone know what Richard said to Ilana when she asked him what lies in the shaodw of the statue? I can't believe John and Juliet are dead. Can't believe it.
ReplyDeleteYes, that is my thought on why Jacob visited the castaways. To research their personalities, to see if they were fit for his experiment. I don't think it was coincidence when he visited them as well.
ReplyDeleteAbout purgatory, and the religion tie in. I find it hard to believe that the writers will be able to satisfy the diverse religions of the millions of people that watch the show. An example, some people's faith do not believe in purgatory, so to them, the ending would not be satisfactory.
So what does it say?
ReplyDeleteCan anyone translate this?
ReplyDeleteBe careful what you speak about imlost2. For the bible does warn those who add or subtract what Revelation states.
ReplyDeleteYea, I nailed the statue. Not in the biblical sense, but guessing it.
ReplyDeleteI'm so glad you asked... It'says everyone you see is either dead or dying. This island is the where judgement is passed to decide if you will go to heavan or hell.
ReplyDeleteHow did Bernard know that Juliet was going to die? He asked her specifically if she wanted some "tea" whcih to some regard could be taken as to stop her from proceeding down her path or fate or destiny
ReplyDeleteIn terms of what Richard said it sounds like its translated as (taken from the web)...
Richard's answer to Ilana's question ("What lies in the shadow of the statue?") was in Latin, He said, "Ille qui nos omnis servabit." Translation: "He who will save us all."
Richard's response in Latin was "He who will save us."
ReplyDeleteOf course, that is true no matter where you are. Everyone is dying, some more slowly than others, but dying none the less.
ReplyDeleteJZ, thanks for that info as to the answer that lies in the shadow of the statue. BTW, John Locke's corpse, dumped out of the crate, lay in the shadow of the statue. Just saying!!!
ReplyDeleteAbout the tea and Juliet, perhaps he was suggesting a tea-bagging. Perhaps not! :D
Des, thanks for that info, I was hoping someone could translate it.
ReplyDeleteNooooo!!!!
ReplyDeleteDont take away Juliets buxomy rack. She'll be back, she has to be.
In tonight’s lost season five finale, we get a good look at Jacob, and we get a good look at the front of the statue, and we get a hell of a look at Juliet’s rack. (Am I obsessing? I can never tell!)
ReplyDeleteYes you are obsessing, not thats there anything wrong with that.
Sorry I only got to watcj the second half of the finale last night, but i did notice something about the way Jacob died. It kind of goes along with LOGTK's virtual reality theory and how the experiments needed to be repeated. I reme,ber at the end of season 3 Ben told Locke he had to kill his father. It almost seemed like now the roles were reveresed and now Locke told Ben to kill Jacob. Also how do we explain Christian Shepards body missing after the plane crash, but not Locke's?
ReplyDeleteI might stop watching if she is killed off.
ReplyDeleteExactly my friend. :D
ReplyDeleteAnd Locke got Sawyer to do it, just like he got Ben to kill Jacob. Full circle.
ReplyDeleteInside info..... What's done is done was a common saying last night. If one of the castaways die, even if Jack's plan works they are still dead, what's done is done. Juliet was still alive when the bomb exploded. Her rack will continue to brighten our lives.
ReplyDeleteok I made up the translation but I wonder if someone can translate the message.
ReplyDeleteJust another tidbit about last nights show:
ReplyDeleteYing, yang, blackmarble, white marble, good, evil, right, wrong, life, death.
This equals Jacob (Ying) and the unknown man (Yang)
Everything in harmony.
I certainly hope so.
ReplyDeleteI think you need a visit from the Smoke Monster!!!
ReplyDeleteI would like to hear some thoughts on why Locke should be worried that the good guys are outisde the tomb with Locke's dead body.
ReplyDeleteWell if we can't compare things in the bible to other things, or vice versa - then that would make for a very quick way to stop a religion from spreading, wouldn't you think?
ReplyDeleteIf the stories in the bible are supposed to be beyond compare to, well, anything...then nobody would relate.
And besides that - Revelation 22:18 only applied to those who heard the word of the book. By quoting that here, you've gone and blown the plausible deniability defense *some* of us were hoping to use. That wasn't very nice.
Maybe he offered her tea because he thought she might be having a bad day after noticing the way Sawyer looked at Kate when they talked about being together.
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ReplyDeleteMay gods give you what you want
From the small part of the tapestry that fakeLocke touched...
ΘΕΟΙ ΟΛΒΙΑ ΔΟΙΕΝ
Gods give happiness
Because that isn't really John Locke, it is the unknown man that took possession of his body. And the good guys are coming.
ReplyDeleteThat was the warning I was trying to give. !!
ReplyDeleteI like my reason better.
ReplyDelete:D
Gods. Plural. As in more than one God. In ancient times, if an alien race descended from the heavens and interacted with the humans at that time, they would be considered Gods.
ReplyDeleteJust saying....
My husband missed the finale so I told him what happened and when I got to the part about Juliet he asked, "Is she dead dead or LOST dead?"
ReplyDeleteI kept thinking about god and the devil as I watched the show last night, how they battle for souls. I'm wondering at this point if the whole island isn't a type of Eden. The castaways (survivors, others, whatever) are given paradise and if they choose to live peacefully (a la Bernard and Rose) they will always have what they need and be happy but if they allow themselves to be tempted by the devil (power, self-righteousness, entitlement etc.) they suffer for it.
My guess is also that one (or both) of the men on the beach are able to take the form of the dead, which would explain a lot (Christian, Locke, Charlie etc.) and obviously there is more to them than we know since they (or at least Jacob) are able to come and go from the island as they please... at any time.
It was a great finale, the only lousy thing is that we now have to wait for what will seem like forever for the final season to begin.
who is esau.
ReplyDeletein the bible...Jacob and Esau. Brothers. One killed the other in order to steal his birth right....
ReplyDeleteyou sound like my mother.
ReplyDeleteSo the other guy on the beach with Jacob who said he was going to kill him, isn't that who lock is now and how he cheated his way back to the island?
ReplyDeleteI do, too.
ReplyDeleteThat is my guess. Locke was not Locke, who was and still is dead. Murdered by Ben. The Locke that came back to the island, he was the unknown man. Notice when Ben asked John how he had everything timed so precisely knowing when he would come out of the jungle and meet Richard.
ReplyDeleteGet out of town! Really! Now that is something, and not just a coincidence.
ReplyDeleteYour mother sounds like a very intelligent person. :D
ReplyDeleteYea Ben, I keep seeing references to the ying and the yang, the truth and the lie. All through the series it came up.
ReplyDeleteAbout the Is she dead dead or just lost dead.
It made me think back to the Wonder Years program, where Kevin was asked about Winnie cooper, "Do you like her, or do you like her like her."
Yes, months away from the season six, which by the way, the same amount of seasons as the Twilight Zone.
Maybe it's something.
ReplyDeletethere are lots of judao-christian undertones throughout the story (which still doesn't negate your thory) - and biblical brothers had a bad habit of killing each other for all sorts of reasons.
It *could* be a coincidence.
until she speaks. ;)
ReplyDeleteBut seriously - she's a bilblical scholar and (arguably), a religious zealot.
She has meshed greek/egyptian mythology so perfectly (in her mind) with historical and biblical events that the two run seamlesly alongside each other.
To her (and anyone who listens to her with an open mind), there are no differences in the religions.
It's just that her version doesn't end with the Gods mysteriously disappearing. It's the ONE God who chased the others away.
Do ya think maybe the mystery man on the beach IS the smoke monster? And maybe that's why it didn't come when Ben flushed the giant potty to call him? Because he was already there - inside of ZombieLocke?
ReplyDeleteyou are correct. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
ReplyDeleteSounds like your mother is one of the writers for Lost.
ReplyDeleteGood point.
ReplyDeleteOr, perhaps Jacob after burning up in the cerimonial pit pushed in by alternate Locke, went up in flames and became the smoke monster.
I think SerenaWelsh is right, I mean the smoke monster took the form of Bens daughter after she had died and told Ben to listen to everything Locke #2 had to say. In addition, Locke was gone for that moment in time and then reappeared once the smoke monster had vanished (ie alex disappeared). So it makes sense to me that the black smoke is this new Locke. And Jacob well maybe now he has been set free. I mean didn't he ask Locke to "save him", which in a wiered way could have meant killing him so that he could manifest into something else.
ReplyDeleteLOTGK i feel that you are to blinded by your theory. jacob visited them as kids That allways happened! are you saying that the aliens had them since kids? does enyone think the island will change now under "new manegment" or as the "devil" and this will be much about the 6th season but what will happen now are all the guys dead and sun is rele the only suviver of 8/15
ReplyDeleteand sometimes I misremember things.
ReplyDeleteI started thinking about the Jacob and Esau story tonight and realized I might have it wrong. I turned to Wikipedia, for Wikipedia will provide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob
Still a dysfunctional sibling rivalry, but Jacob tricked Esau out of his birth right (with the help of dear old mom) - didn't kill him for it.
Then Esau wanted to kill Jacob for it, but didn't / couldn't.
Still maybe relevant. Still maybe not.
LOTGK: i think you are so deep in love with juliet that it has turned you against kate (juliets competition). if you consider kate whoring around then juliet is guilty of the same thing. but i dont think either of them are whores. they both have true emotional feelings for who they have slept with on lost and not just doing it for pleasure or personal gain. if anyone is a whore its ana lucia. she had sex with sawyer just to get his gun! juliet does have a great rack as you said a million times and counting. i dont know about you but im not a fan of really big boobs, juliet is the perfect size. kates are smaller but still in my size preference but she has a better ass and i defintely noticed her pants have gotten tighter and i am thankful for that. past wardrobe didnt do her justice.
ReplyDeleteWell, if she is, then I suspect it's the balding one.
ReplyDeletemaybe that wasn't jacob that asked Locke to save him. Maybe it was mystery beach man/smoke monster.
ReplyDeleteI may be blinded by the light. Even blinded by science. But blinded by my theory? Hardly.
ReplyDeleteTake a look at the season finale. Two men talking about the previous encounters of the inhabitants of the island.
"They come, fight, they destroy, they corrupt. It always ends the same."
This a classic example of scientists debating and discussing an in progress experiment.
With Jacob visiting the castaways at certain stages of their lives, in a virtual reality environment, he inspects the candidates to determine if they are worthy of the study. The ones that are not, he leaves, the ones he wants, he keeps.
And one more time, my theory is just that. A theory. I am having plenty of fun with it so far. I understand that just by the mere nature of my theory that I have a million in one for it to be correct. Yet I am undeterred. And as of this very moment, still lay claim to a valid Lost theory.
:D
More of a lustful feeling. :D
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, Kate is a true hottie, as was Ana Lucia, but in the last several episodes, it appears that the Lost writers decided to showcase Juliet's ample assets and acting skills. In this scenario, virtual reality or not, everyone wins.
Speakiing of - Does season 6 start up in the fall, or in January?
ReplyDeletePerhaps I misstated what I meant...I think with a drama show written by man should not try to compare the Bible in a TV show...many people could be mislead that what is in the show is actual. Trying to relate Biblical teachings would be better off left in the Church realm...not TV. Please, this is only my opinion and you are entitled to yours.
ReplyDeleteI do believe it is late January, 2010.
ReplyDeleteThan Tom Hanks is doomed to an eternity in hell for acting in the Davinci code.
ReplyDeleteLikewise, tele-evangalists would also be better left off of TV, lest someone misinterpret what they're saying is actual.
ReplyDeleteyeah but no one has looked better on the island then shannon wow wow wow
ReplyDeleteWhat a long 3 seasons we have ahead of us.
ReplyDeleteJust jumping ahead here a little bit (I kind of have no real clue as to how the season 6 is goign to go down). But I kind of was thinking that season 6 seems to me that it will start off on the plane of oceanic 815, just as they were at the very beginning. Each and everyone of them thinking I am headed to LA, but don't really recognize each other yet. However, again Oceanic 815 crashes back on the island except this time the losties kind of begin to remember each other. Kind of like beginning the loop again. (also it refers to the losties coming, as Jacob said when he was dieing). And then this whole bad guy vs Jacob rivalry starts. With one of the characters who has been on the Oceanic flight 815 since the beginning being Jacob (returning to the island) In other words through maybe Christian Shephard (do we know how he died?) Cause I dont remember and I could see it being the doing of Jacob, so that he could get back to the island and kill the other random dude. Or Jacob could have been Vincent the entire time trying to get back to the island and where he was before. Meantime, I think richard will realize that Jack is the actual leader who is suppose to save them. Then BAM at the end of the fighting LOGTK's theory happens!
ReplyDeleteI think yor right on with that. Because Llana did say, when she entered Jacobs cabin, that he hasn't been there for along time. Thus, the other guy has probably been waiting for him to return and been the one communicating with Ben all along.
ReplyDeleteI like how Jacob was the same guy who was really dumb in The Big Lebowski. He goes in with the asian guy who pisses on his carpet.
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ReplyDeleteBenjamin
Benjamin, was the twelfth and youngest son of Jacob. His mother was Rachel, Jacob's wife. Benjamin was born during the journey that Jacob and his family took from Padan Aram to Canaan. His mother Rachel named him "Ben-oni," meaning "Son of my sorrow," before she died during the childbirth, but Jacob called him Benjamin. Joseph, Benjamin's brother was sold into slavery by his other brothers.
Joseph later became prime minister of Egypt, and when Joseph's brothers refused to abandon Benjamin, after Joseph put them to a test, Joseph realized his brothers had a change of heart and were willing to risk their lives for their youngest brother. Through this test, the whole family of Jacob was joyously reunited.
When Jacob blesses his 12 sons, in Genesis 49, he describes Benjamin as a wolf that prowls, devouring his enemies in the morning and dividing up the spoils in the evening. (Genesis 49:27). King Saul, and Judge Ehud, were descendants of Benjamin, as was Paul and the prophet Jeremiah.
After the division of the Kingdom, the land of Benjamin served as a buffer zone between Israel and Judah. The name Benjamin means "Son of my right hand."
Thanks, Szajna.
ReplyDeleteThat's the story I referenced above.
Mystery man does not fit physical description of Esau, but roll wise, could possibly be Laban. So maybe that was the loophole? God told him not to harm Jacob - so he didn't. He had Ben do it. Also, that makes Jacob a *Christian Shepherd*, does it not???
Actually, it doesn't. Christianity hadn't been invented just yet. But it was coming.
Neither Jacob, Esau, nor Laban were gods, so why are they still hanging around?
But consider this:
Jacob had 12 sons. Their names were ASHER, ISSACHAR, NAPHTALI, BENJAMIN, JOSEPH, REUBEN, DAN, JUDAH, SIMEON, GAD, LEVI, ZEBULUN
Hey, tele-evangalists are some of the best entertainment on TV. :D
ReplyDeleteouch! my head hurts! Oh lost! i have no idea. some of my biggest question are : in my view there all dead apart from Sun, pilot, Crazy big guy who threw Daniel. F into tht truck. but obvs the Bomb allways went off explaing the statue ( the way it has only one foot ) well thats wht i think , and as richard said he watched them all die! but why isnt Ben dead or Charles or ella or OTHERS as that was there present! Because if you draw away from the 30 years ago/earlier this is 2 diffrent storylines and could have been show in the first season if you know what im saying as they say whats done is done! but i have so much speculation about if things have changed if things have changed lost cant go on because there all dead in a way they could of ended lost last night but they havent so whats the next step i think Sun and Pilot guy are alive and arent going to die! The chinese guy who does darma Vids stated that there was a accident at the swan he was right there! so the hydrogen bomb didnt kill him but if they did change it i think season 6 will start with a flash (just like the time travel) and all change. but if so they will never go to the island. its so confusing what are your therioes? as in the next season Christian and Clare have got to be involved so in a way they cant all die and things b changed *sigh*
ReplyDeleteShannon is an absolute hott. I was just bemused as how the writers showcased Juliet's boobs the past several episodes.
ReplyDeleteI think it would be a very cool opening to season six, having the characters boarding Oceanic 815. A real hoot. But here's a twist, it will be a flash back, and in that flash back, it will be revealed that another member of the flight, (Say the co-pilot) will be featured in the flash back. Remember, the co-pilot was snatched from his seat by the smoke monster. Perhaps he was Jacob incarnate.
ReplyDeleteAnd if the ending is virtual reality, that would be so cool.
Great read, it certainly adds to the "Religion" theory for lost.
ReplyDeleteLets see, Benjamin we all know. And Dan Faraday we all know. Any others?
I will endeavor to answer. A 20 ton hydrogen bomb just exploded on the island. Everyone would be dead if it were real life. That is just a standard law of science.
ReplyDeleteHowever, we all know that episode was not the series finale. So we go outside of real life and ask how could they survive the explosion? My theory is virtual reality. An input of controlled variables, study and observe how the castaways react, and then add a new set of variables and continue.
BTW, How is the tone?
Tele-evangelists are not what I am talking about although I don't agree with some of them. They are not dramatizing in a fictional story...they are speaking the "truth". Lost is a drama...fiction if you will. What I am saying is: Don't dramatize the Gospel along with other facts(fiction) which could be misleading to a non-believer.
ReplyDeleteI will end this for me now as this discussion is about "Lost"...not my religious viewpoints.
My first original question hasn't been contemplated as to why Locke had Ben stab Jacob with a knife instead of shoot him with a gun...I feel this must be of significance. I respect both of your statements. Can't wait til 2010 !!!
I think it is Christian in Locke form. Even the look on Locke's face when he kicks Jacob into the fire reminds you of Christian. Or Whoever took Locke's Body took Christians as well.
ReplyDeletePerhaps Zombie Locke simply didn't have access to a gun at the time.
ReplyDeleteWasn't there a big hairy dude named Reuben? Was he one of the "others?"
ReplyDeleteI think I remember that, but I could totally be making it up.
But it could just be another one of those cigar things. Those names are both biblical and common (except reuben).
Wait, I just thought my way out of that box, too.
ReplyDeleteBen WASN'T communicating with Jacob or the other guy all along. Remember? He just admitted to never seeing or hearing Jacob for himself. Richard always communicated with Jacob and then relayed it to Ben.
HOWEVER, Locke WAS communicating with somebody/something almost from the very beginning.
If mystery guy from the beach, smoke monster, and zombie locke are all the same thing (the unholy trinity, if you will), and he turns out to be who Locke was communicating with all along - well then Locke is still just a tool. He was used by this guy just like he was used by his father.
Perhaps that is why Jacob said it always ends the same way. Everyone is given a chance for redemption, but in the end, they revert back to their core.
ReplyDeleteAnd the name Asher has come up as well, one of the radio guys, or a first mate on the boat.
ReplyDeleteYe thats a good point! just dont know about the VR lol
ReplyDeleteOr maybe, as Jacob touched everyone, Jacob had to be touched to die. With a gun, no contact, with a knife, contact.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't it be a hoot if it was the FBI man that died, the one taking Kate to justice.
ReplyDeletelike everyone has a chance to not do what they are doing but they do! i mean aliens is a very real thing in lost! as richard jacob and Crazy locke (lets just call him Mr.X till we find out) are not human! but i think aliens in a space ship is not losts style
ReplyDeleteClarification: We are assuming that the 20 ton hydrogen bomb just exploded on the island. We do not know this for a fact. We didn't hear it go boom.
ReplyDeleteIf my suspicion is correct, that Jacob went back in time and touched the Losties to change the events in motion that put those particluar people on flight 815, then they were never there. They didn't get on the plane.
Then maybe the flash of light when Juliet banged the Hbomb with the rock wasn't an explosion, but a time flashy thing, sending them all back to their "happy place."
Plus, as someone I know pointed out, how is it that the bomb fell 100 feet into a rocky shaft and was presumably hit with all sorts of metal objects and didn't detonate, yet a wounded woman was able to hit it with a little rock and make it go boom?
So far, aliens are not in the mix on Lost. Only when Juliet, the blond with the great rack, mentioned teasingly to Sawyer that they were building the runway for the aliens. I don't recall another time they were mentioned.
ReplyDeleteExcellent point. Perhaps that flash at the end was merely another time slip of the island and they are now in the 1980's.
ReplyDeleteLet us not assume they're the good guys just because they said they were.
ReplyDeleteI´m from spain, sorry my English.
ReplyDeleteImagine that a man can provocate the moment exactly of his own dead, but not directly, usin "messengers", this mesengers ar the variables of the his study. He provoque and atomic bomb explosion using BNARY information axtracted from de decisions of the people(YES or NO).
When the boomb is detoned, he kills himsel(by a mesenger) exatly when he is dying, it makes he goes out of that temporal loop that he was provocated making the pepople detone that "incident"in time. This "person" is atemporal, becuase he found the moment exactly when the loops ends, and the variables, the name of the characters and his names and rols, chances. He chance, but he always can observe all the variables, all the people, like good. I think...
I think in seasson 6 they talk about time in oriental concepts and about simbology, if the talk about good, then its posible..
It is possible to that they start questioning our own(proper) existence of species(kind) as something that we themselves have provoked.
That would happend if someone had discovered this and was doing a documentary?
you sleep well! jajaja
Woo Hoo! Mullets and blue eye liner, here we come.
ReplyDeleteDo you think that the bomb will send them to the time where Benjamin, Sun and Fake Locke are. Is that what Jacob meant by "They're Coming". Did he mean the other passengers of Flight 815?
ReplyDeleteI thing lock can send mesages to hemself using people, because he is in a circle of people that cant be apart of the temp-desplazament provoqued for the explosion of the bomb. The rest of the people always is in a bucle.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like some people can provoque his own death and save himself in the exactly moment sending mensages. Remember that lock, kwews where and when goes to be. (soory my englis, jeje)and he sed himself instructions, first use richard, now Jacob.
lock its OUTSIDE OF THE BUCLE, becuase he knows the variables and the consecuences. He know when is going to start to rain in the islan as anything, because he knows he provoqued it. He maybe went in the "island" from the begining of the times an can see any movement and eny coonsecuence because he cand read the binary information of the universe.
ReplyDeleteIts that kind of people human??
Maybe lots talks about a specie (can be human) but much more evoclucionated, they can use the temporal accidents to live for ever and break the concept of the begining and the ending of the thing, ingluding deth.
Last episodi is first, im sure, jaja
Could the bomb not have exploded and that his why the button had to be pushed. Didn't when they failed to push the button, the hatch exploded and blew up?
ReplyDeleteif their theory works, there was never a hatch and never a button to push and that part of their pasts never occured.
ReplyDeletei just thought of a theory that could explain everything on lost just as virtual reality does. what if the final episode instead of going to a virtual reality lab the camera pans out and you see a film crew and cameras and they have just been making a movie or t.v. show. after i thought that up i remembered how nikki was introduced to the show. that episode i thought i had the wrong channel at first because it was scenes from the show that nikki was a actress on before coming to the island. they made it seem like that was really happening before revealing it was just a t.v. show and nikki was just an actress. that would explain why they even had nikki and paulo on lost considering they didnt really have much to do with anything and died once we got to know them... maybe that was a easter egg that hinted to what was really happening on lost. hey even aliens and virtual reality could be part of the show before they reveal that its just a show.lol and just for the record i would be so pissed and dissapointed if im right, its just a theory
ReplyDeleteI think that when jacobs touches them he is simply allowing them on to the island
ReplyDeleteEspecially in season six, where the signal for change was the Lost logo from white to black, the ying and yang.
ReplyDeleteYour theory is as good as any here. Thanks for reading and commenting.
ReplyDeletePerhaps they will go where they want to go, or where a certain group of scientists want them to go.
ReplyDeleteJust a reset button to begin all over again but this time, a new set of variables.
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ReplyDeleteSeveral years back I suggested the same thing about Ben, Desmond, and Locke. That somehow they figured out that what they were experiencing was not real, and soon figured out how to manipulate the variables slightly to their advantage.
ReplyDeleteSort of like the Truman show, We Didn't Start The Fire"
ReplyDeleteOr perhaps he is determining if they are proper candidates to the experiment.
ReplyDeletewasnt the truman show about filming the real life of jim careys character or was it meant to seem like that was his real life but at the end they reveal he was really an actor on a t.v. show? i cant remember exactly cuz i havent seen that movie since it came out?
ReplyDeleteThey were filming Truman, who thought it was his real life but in reality, it was a reality TV show.
ReplyDeleteJacob didn't say it always ends the same. The mystery man on the beach with Jacob said it always ends the same.
ReplyDeleteCorrect, here is the actual dialog…
ReplyDelete“Let me begin with the conversation Jacob and the unknown man were having on the beach as they watched the Black Rock ship come ashore.
Unknown Man: You’re still trying to prove me wrong.
Jacob: You are wrong!
Unknown Man: They come, fight, they destroy, they corrupt. It always ends the same.
Jacob: It only ends once. Anything that happens before that, it’s just progress.”
The documentary theory has already been disproven. And that they are all in porgatory. The aliens shapceship was desproved to.
ReplyDeleteIn harmony but there will always be good and evil jacob and the x-man with him who turned into locke. God and the deviil.
ReplyDeleteAnd so has time travel and yet, season five has all been about time travel. So, I believe all theories are in play.
ReplyDeleteI wanted to add one more thing about the lost time travel arc.
ReplyDeleteThe Lost castaways went back 30 years to the past.
And on Back To the Future, Marty and Doc Brown also went back 30 years into the past. Exactly 30 years. Doc Brown also mentioned that he was going to travel into the future. When Marty asked how far, Doc said 30 years.
Just saying, castaways travel 30 years, so does Marty and Doc.
As an Alias fan, I found (after the series ended) that I always focussed on the wrong things. I think J.J.'s plots are really simple, but he throws in details to muddle the waters- gods, statues, poisonous insects, the polar bear, etc... they served their purpose for one show, but don't necessarily connect to the larger picture. Nevertheless, the get hooked on them and try to apply them to something bigger.
ReplyDeleteI think with one brief season left, that all those things can't possibly be applied and summed up while still keeping the big story going.
That said, I wonder what's happening with the cabin we thought was Jacob's. We saw Claire there, as well as Christian S., right? Was there another man there or no?
Oh! Whose eye was that at the end? Was it a green iris?
ReplyDeleteAre we sure that the statue is Taweret? She is usually depicted as a hippo- and while hippos do have four toes, Taweret is usually depicted as pregnant or with breasts (the proper name for a 'rack'- and far less offensive to women.) She usually has long hair too.
I thought the statue had the traditional pharonic headcloth?
One thing about this I noticed was that Jacob appeared to meet them all before Oceanic flight 815 took place, apart from Hugo who he met after he got released from prison. Any relevance in that? Maybe Jacob decided that was the best point to meet Hugo.
ReplyDeleteWhat was interesting too was that Locke remembered meeting Jacob after Ben questioned this, which makes me wonder if the rest will remember their meeting with Jacob?
My point exactly Scarlett. With all the twists the Lost writers have taken us on, it will be pretty darn hard to explain everything. Except if the secret is virtual reality. :D
ReplyDeleteAm I sure it is Taweret? No, not at all. Just a logical guess. And I use the word "Rack" in the most affectionate way possible. :D
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ReplyDeletebiblical writings are just that, writings. Their are not facts. It's up to interpretation. It's up to yourself to decide on what it all means if anything.
both virtual reality and the "truman show" like idea were discounted by the writers
ReplyDeleterather than aliens, it'd make more sense if it were possibly the last 2 men on earth, from the far far far far off future. Superior technology is akin to magic, and thus people take it as the supernatural. Could just be from the future and the technology is so great it appears god-like.
ReplyDeleteWriters scripts are just that. Scripts. There are no facts. It's up to interpretation. It's up to yourself to decide on what it all means if anything.
ReplyDelete:D
Dave, where have you been? The writers also said time travel is not the secret of Lost either. And yet, the entire season five has been based on time travel. So go figure.
ReplyDeleteoh ok thanks for clearing that up for me. it is like the truman show except in my theory everyone is paid actors in a scripted movie or t.v. show and knows why they are being filmed (to make a movie or t.v. show). i was tring to think of a theory that could logically make everything possible on lost just as good as virtual reality does cuz i remembered your retorical question how else can you explain it all (time travle, smoke monster, a healing movable island, dead people interacting with the living, people who dont age, etc.) honestly i think that its neither. i think that everything that happens is really happening to the characters on lost. flight 815 really did crash because desmond didnt hit the button in time and so on. the writers on this show are very educated intelectuals and they are going to have scientifical explanatons for what goes on. even if a theory isnt proven yet such as the theory of relitivity or life after death and ghost. they are already doing this, using daniel farday to explain. quantum physics is a HUGE part of lost. i think by them explaining the scientific details this is what the writers mean by lost being believeable apposed to other sci fi where crazy things happen but dont get explained how it could happen and leave you to think its just fantasy
ReplyDeletePerhaps the white ending of Lost is indicating a reset of the VR system. Maybe the castaways were never meant to be able to stop themselves from coming to the island, causing a paradox in the VR system.
ReplyDeleteSigh... its going to be hard to find a show as good as lost.
Perhaps it is merely a chapter change, to a new level, a more difficult level.
ReplyDeleteDid anybody else notice that the second flight that crashed - the one that brought the oceanic 6 back to the island - was flight 360?
ReplyDeleteEverything came full circle....
Something that could fit right along with your theory, NY Nick:
ReplyDeleteMaybe they really are all people filming at TV Show. Jacob and the mystery man on the beach are JJ Abrams and Damon Lindelof.
JJ Abrams' birth name is Jeffery Jacob Abrams.....
ReplyDeleteJust saying...
I'm in South Carolina for the week and when I logged on it took me 30 minutes to catch up. Wow alot of posting has gone on since I left Pittsburgh. Anyhow I talked to a guy in a bar the other night and he too was a big lost fan. He told me that he thinks the writers are making a point on how silly the human race actually is. This guy sounded like Dr. Phil with his accent so I listened, because you have to listen to Dr. Phil
ReplyDeleteThat would be a hoot. And a big ego!!! :D
ReplyDeleteAgreed on the human race being silly. But that show was already done. It was called Seinfeld.
ReplyDeleteGood catch, I did not connect that. A sort of restart, reset.
ReplyDeleteSo why couldn't the castaways just live on the island. WHy didn't the Dharma welcome them? Why are these people fighting over an island that has plenty of space and resources for all of them to live? The writers may be making a point of the mistakes the human race made since the beginning of time.
ReplyDeleteThe sad answer is Greed. Why do people go to war? Greed! To take what others have.
ReplyDeleteSadly, it has been noted that Juliet Burke (Elizabeth Mitchell) and her impressive rack will not be a featured character for the final season of Lost. :(
ReplyDeleteAnd it appears that there is a little glitch in the comment threading for this series of comments. Some of them do not seem to be going to the correct spot and some stand alone comments are not appearing in the correct sequence.
ReplyDeleteAnother Lost mystery perhaps!
I would never have thought that the Lost comments would become more confusing than the series itself. I need Faraday here just to decipher what is going on in here.
ReplyDeleteNow which one is Maryann?
A little glitch? Standard operating procedure here at the knoll.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the dilemma of the H Bomb exploding? It changes the past and thus the present for the 815 passengers but they will be changing the present and in effect killing all the other residents of the island- the others and the dharma initiative. Are they willing to do this just to set their own lives straight? Surely Kate would object to this....
ReplyDeleteUnless it was supposed to explode?
ReplyDeleteAnd what if it didn't explode? That somehow the electromagnetic energy source contained the blast.
And Juliet, at the center of the blast, was transported to another time line. Perhaps back to the present time, or just a bit before Jack decides to leave the island. Perhaps she persuades him to stay thus altering the course of the past (Jack doesn't leave the island thus stopping the chain of effects that led up to the island time shifting) and Juliet and her amazing rack saves them all.
A Big Ego? In Hollywood? Get out!
ReplyDeleteYea, what was I thinking about.
ReplyDeleteOh yea, Juliet's rack.
:D
and youve been wrong since. its not aliens or twilizone .
ReplyDeleteAs of this exact moment, I have not been proven wrong. Plain and simple.
ReplyDeleteLocke is the other guy that Jacob was talking to in the beginning, because at the end Jacob tells Locke I see you found your loophole. (just like in thge beginning)
ReplyDeleteit was flight 316 not 360 they sound the same when you say them though
ReplyDeleteIn as much as I am the Fool On The Hill any way.It would be very nice if Icould contact the writers of lost or have them contact me that I might be able to tell them what will happen next on LOST. They obviously have no idea as to how close to reality they are. LOST is indeed a wonderful series but to be this close to reality and miss it is a bit unnurving . s.alexander@nc,rr.com [THE FOOL ON THE HILL]
ReplyDeleteSamuel, or may I address you as, "the Fool on the Hill!"
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, I do believe your email address is incorrect. You have a comma after NC and before RR.
Second, you may have just stumbled upon a secret of the Lost writers. The writers don't create new story lines, they merely steal song lyrics and incorporate the theme into the show. Take for instance the Beatles song, the Fool on The Hill. One could interpret the fool as being Jacob, going day after day looking for the perfect ending.
Read the following song lyrics and tell me that this song doesn't describe the Lost series and it's characters, especially Jacob.
Day after day, alone on the hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still.
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool.
And he never gives an answer.
But the fool on the hill,
Sees the sun going down.
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning around.
Well on his way, his head in a cloud,
The man of a thousand voices talking perfectly loud.
But nobody ever hears him,
Or the sound he appears to make.
And he never seems to notice.
But the fool on the hill,
Sees the sun going down.
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning around.
And nobody seems to like him,
They can tell what he wants to do.
And he never shows his feelings,
But the fool on the hill,
Sees the sun going down.
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning around.
wen jacob went to see the whole lost gang in there younger stage did any one notice that he touched every single one of them in some way. Also in one season (unknown wich) charlie let a bird loose with a letter tied to the birds leg, what the hec happened to the bird?!? and if the whole darmha thing died in an explosion thing how would ben stil be alive, I mean wouldnt they hav enough common sense to relize that and NOT try 2 runaway, i mean i probably missed something sayd in the show about that but its a simple explanation.
ReplyDeleteAlso in one season (unknown wich) charlie let a bird loose with a letter tied to the birds leg, what the hec happened to the bird?!?
ReplyDeleteThe polar bear ate the bird.
Love this blog--terrific insight! Hey, what's up with Lepidus? He has flown under the radar (yes pun intended) but keeps showing up. His name is odd and I've noted it in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar--Lepidus is one of the guys that stick to Caesar and is left to help Mark Antony get his revenge after Caesar's murder.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you. I believe there is a much bigger role for our non shaven pilot.
ReplyDeleteAny show that has made it in field is probally aware that they can make more money making a movie series, like Star trek and so on, I'm still waiting to see what happened to NEO in the end of the Matrix, Riddik (in: whats up with the underverse?)and Close encounters 2 - the next gen .... heheheh. Lost is the first show that made me mad waiting for them to rewrite the script but still I waited for the next season, 8 months to see season 6, there killing me!!!!!
ReplyDeleteLOST UPDATE LOST UPDATE LOST UPDATE LOST UPDATE LOST UPDATE!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI have startling news that the Grassy Knoll Institute needs to investigate. Julliet and Charlie have not left the show!!!!!!! Charlie is on the new ABC series Flash Forward. In the beginning on the first episode their is a billboard on the side of the building that says “OCEANIC AIRLINES” and underneath it says “Perfect Flight Safety Record” The New show that Julliet is on called V also has references to Lost. ABC is going to intertwine all three shows. Flash Forward is about seeing the future and V is about Aliens. Isn’t Funny how Julliet goes to another show on the same network involving aliens and she has made reference to aliens on lost and Charlie goes to another show on the same network dealing with seeing the future?
Any ideas why Jacob had to touch every one of the cast aways? Whenever he met them for the first time, he touched all of them. Thought?
ReplyDeleteMany idea's why Jacob touched the castaways. Read the comments over the past two updates.
ReplyDeleteActually LOTGK, it is a statue of Taweret. Folks behind the show confirmed it (well, Abrams kinda), along with the help of a puzzle in a Wired magazine issue.
ReplyDeleteFor more info, go here! http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Statue_of_Taweret#Wired_puzzle :)
i think locke and ben are half brothers. same mom, different dad. both of their mothers names is emily. you heard it here first, locke is bens older brother. id put money on it
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