Lost Update - Season V - 04/29/2009
All that you touch
All that you see
All that you taste
All you feel.
All that you love
All that you hate
All you distrust
All you save.
All that you give
All that you deal
All that you buy,
Beg, borrow or steal.
All you create
All you destroy
All that you do
All that you say.
All that you eat
And everyone you meet
All that you slight
And everyone you fight.
All that is now
All that is gone
All that's to come
And everything under the sun is in tune
But the sun is eclipsed by the moon.
Daniel Faraday is about to reset time and everything that happened to the castaways, is about to be erased. The song lyrics above are from Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon, the song is Eclipse. The problem however, is not that he gets shot by his mother 30 years in the past, and his mother doesn't know who he is, until after she shoots him, but what he said earlier, and what he said to Jack and Kate tonight.
In a previous episode, Faraday stated, whatever happened, happened. You cannot change the past. Tonight, however, he tells Jack and Kate that the past cannot be changed, except for the variables. And they, meaning, the castaways, are the variables. They have free will, they have the ability to make a different choice, to change the past. Alas, Faraday's scenario doesn't end well, and this plays right into my Lost theory.
Just what is the Grassy Knoll Institutes Lost theory….
Although it appears the survivors of Oceanic flight 815 are on a tropical island, they are being deceived. There is no island. The survivors are in a virtual reality laboratory. All the castaways are interconnected to one another sharing each others thoughts, memories, and feelings. While in this virtual reality laboratory, a battery of physical and mental experiments are performed on them. And who is running these experiments? As Juliet stated, the Aliens of course.
So Faraday tells Doctor Chang that he is from the future and that he must evacuate the island immediately. He also tells him that Miles is his son. He then tells Sawyer, Kate, Hurley, Jack, and the gang about the island catastrophe and that he must go to the hostiles camp and meet his mother to reset the time line. He did this to change the course of events, to add a new variable. To course correct so to speak. But I knew this wouldn't work even before Kate typed in the 141717 code on the perimeter fence.
Why? How does the Grassy Knoll Institute know this? I anticipated your next question didn't I? It wasn't anything that Daniel said tonight, or before, but what Desmond had done in the past. Remember when Desmond had his flash and saw Charlie dying? Remember how he tried to prevent Charlie from dying? But what happened in the end? You betcha! Charlie ended up dead. Whatever happened, happened. No matter what you do, you cannot change the past to affect the future.
Remember a few updates ago I mentioned the Time Travel paradox. (Suppose you had the means to travel back in time. While you were visiting the past, you murdered your grandfather before he sired your father preventing you from being conceived and born. But if you were never born, then how could you go back in time to kill your grandfather?) This is why Desmond, Ben, Widmore, Eloise, and Daniel, no matter what they do, or how many times they attempt, they cannot change the course of events in the past to affect the future.
With this being said, here's a Lost series finale spoiler boys and girls. Time Travel is not part of the end Game.
This leaves us only one other scenario. Virtual Reality. Seriously, stay with me here for a minute or two. As the series unfolded over these five seasons, we have come to realize that all the passengers on the plane, and all the hostiles, also known as "The others," have all crossed paths in the past. Don't you find this to be more than just a coincidence? Seriously, hundreds of people, on an island that is invisible, that has properties to move through time, heal terminally ill people, prevent people from aging, allow people to time travel, and allow dead people to interact with the living, plus many more bizarre events, with all of them crossing paths in the past.
Let's concede for the sake of argument that the castaways are time traveling. At that point, you have to admit, that would be a ground breaking scientific achievement since it is deemed impossible. Now add that the island also cures the sick. And not just standard fare illness, but miraculous cures. Just look at John Locke, he is able to walk. Add in all the supernatural events in the previous paragraph and ask yourself, in what scenario can all this be possible? Not just one event, like time travel, but everything involved?
The only scenario that satisfies all those variables is virtual reality. My Lost theory. Some may think I'm a lunatic on the grass, but I know There is no dark side of the moon. Really. Matter of fact, its all dark.
Until Next Week, Get Lost.
LURKING ON THE GRASSY KNOLL
Well I'm going to say as if the time travel is real...the two most important point in time is - 815 crashing on the island and - when they fail to stop the drilling of the strong magnet. I think they have tried to stop it before and have failed in different ways...somewhat changing their lives....(maybe jack is like ben's character also maybe why richard wanted to see what item Locke would pick). But no matter who they turn out to be....they end up on that plane. I see the series ending either of two ways.....they succeed in stopping the drilling and then a flash of them landing at LAX....or they fail and then flash to the crash of 815....eyes open....maybe John locke will wake up in the woods instead of Jack
ReplyDeleteDaniel Faraday did the complete opposite of what he told everyone in his last episode about not interfering with the past because you cannot change it. This epsiode he tells Cheng that Miles is is dad and that he is from the future and tells Jack and crew the island is going to blow up and that stats the chain reaction in 2004 that makes flight 815 crash. Now he has changed the future by changing the past.
ReplyDeleteI just want to point out that Albert Einstein and his special theory of relativity relied heavily on electromagnetism. What is buried beneath the swan station. Exactamondo.
ReplyDeleteInteresting ending Paul, although that sounds a lot like the Bobby Ewing shower scene on Dallas. Where he leaves the show and comes back a year later walking out of the shower like nothing has happened.
ReplyDeleteN Danger, yes, Faraday did reveal island secrets and events in history to the castaways, but we go back to the time travel paradox. It doesn't matter how or when or what you do to change the past, whatever happened, happened, you cannot change the course of events in the past. Desmond proved this already. His attempts to save Charlie failed.
ReplyDeleteGood point there Lex. Also that Einstein didn't think time travel was possible and affect the past.
ReplyDeleteFirst off Widmore knocked up Elle? I was surprised that Widmore was Daniels father. That must be why Elle left the island. She must of left to have Daniel. That's why she looks older than Widmore because she left before him. Widmore was alot older than Elle when they showed her as a child. Maybe that is why Widmore was thrown off the island; statutory rape charges were filed against him.
ReplyDeleteIf you think back Charlie was going to die numerous different ways. Desmond knew each time. Does anyone know how many times Desmond saved Charlie's Life? Maybe that's how many times they have been in this time loop. I sticking to my guns one side is Heavan and one side is hell. Not sure who is good and who is bad yet. I do however think Armageddon, the final between good and evil is coming. The ones who follow Locke will prevail. By the by, How can the writers do the smoke monster thing with Ben and his daughter and leave us hanging. I want a four hour season finale. It's only fair.
ReplyDeleteI know you think Lost is influenced a lot by Twilight Zone....but I was going to release a blog next week that pinpoints many areas connected to Dallas. YES....this is just a Dallas remake :)
ReplyDeleteGood call Paul. Can't wait to read it.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Ben knows this information. After all, he was out to kill Penny, Widmore's daughter.
ReplyDeleteAbout the heaven and hell scenario, actually my virtual reality theory is similar in some respects. I do not believe they are in heaven or hell, which means that they are already dead. And well, my religion dictates to me that when you die you go to either heaven or hell. Not a tropical island where you do battle with smoke monsters and hostiles.
ReplyDeleteInstead, my theory is predicated on social psychology experiments. The main theme is the battle between good and evil. (Heaven and hell) Notice that at the beginning of the series, we had preconceived notions of who were the good people were and who the bad were. Jack was good, Sawyer was bad. As the series progressed, the line between good and evil got very thin. Many crossed the line. jack broke his oath not to heal, Sawyer turned good.
Classic examples of laboratory tests. And what better way to get pure data then through virtual reality, where the subject, (The castaways) are not aware of the experiment.
I am a little confused still...lets say your theory(aliens) is correct. So, what's up with the wheel that Locke and Ben have turned...how does that play into your theory? When they turned it, they were transported to a desert...How did that allow them to escape the "lab" ?
ReplyDeleteMy theory which I haven't fully developed yet has something to do with the magnetic properties of the island...I feel that in ancient time, some civilization not known to modern man discovered these properties and harnessed them(hence the wheel)...the rf frequencies of the "magnet" makes it possible for people to travel(not time travel as such) but travel to different locations when the wheel is turned. Now modern man has discovered this and damaged the "magnet" causing many diturbances like plane crashes etc. Faraday, Chang and the other scientists just haven't figured out the possibilities and how to harness it and I don't know that they can fully, now that it is damaged. I think they have just got caught up in the past/future deal because they don't fully understand what's going on...how can you change the past if it already occured? Oh, about the Moon, I think there is no Dark Side...Dark is only the absence of light!!! I once was lost, but now am found---Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound.
Think of rats in a cage running around a wheel that spins. That is how the aliens perceive humans. As rats. For experimentation. The wheel is a powerful symbol.
ReplyDeleteAnd they do not ever escape the lab. They are all still there. Even the ones thought to be dead. That is why they appear ever so often to offer advice to the living. (Jacks dad, Charlie, Boone, etc.)
been following this season on your blog. I admire your tenacity in defending your theory and in some strange way i hope you are correct although i don';t belive it to be so. I think the Einstein theory has a big part in the season six arc. Thanks for your updating.
ReplyDeletedude, you are going to be so pissed off if your vertical reality theory is wrong!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThank God it's virtual instead. :D
ReplyDeleteDesmond's attempt to save Charlie did ultimately fail. However, he did possibly change the course of the future. Had he not interferred all those times to prevent the death, Charlie wouldn't have stayed alive long enough to flip the switch that turned off the protector field that cloaked the island.
ReplyDeleteOn a side note, I've always wondered why Charlie didn't just float until the water level surpassed the hole, hold his breath, and swim out.
Fox, Whidmore was thrown off the island because he fathered a child with an outsider during one of his trips mainland.
ReplyDeleteEloise might not have needed to leave to have Daniel. People were capable of birthing babies on the island at some point (Russo, Ethan's mom, Myles' mother, etc...).
I have to agree with Sid. I started reading this blog because it was the only good source of discussion I could find on the show. I've never once bought into the alien theory. However, I do find myself looking for evidence to refute that theory in every show.
ReplyDeleteSo far, it's just not falsifiable, so I'm leaving it on the table.
As for me, I suspect I will fully develop my own theory about two minutes before the ending of the series finale.
Or perhaps, time corrected itself and Charlie died the way he was supposed to. By drowning. And I though Charlie was locked in a sealed room and couldn't just float to the top.
ReplyDeleteTell me about it. :D I have stated many times before that I have a one in a million chance of being correct on my Lost theory. As I was watching the pilot episodes, I felt as if I were watching an updated Twilight Zone. especially when the invisible giant monster showed up. I then quickly dismissed what it couldn't be and came up with my virtual reality theory and that the castaways are being experimented on, like lab rats, by aliens.
ReplyDeleteThat is so much like a Twilight Zone episode, introducing the characters, setting the stage, adding a sense of the supernatural, explaining the scenario in a rational logical way, and then right at the end, when everyone is convinced, throw in a twist that changes outcome.
That is how every Twilight Zone episode was structured in it's six seasons and that it how Lost is structured, also in it's six seasons.
And BTW Sid, wasn't Faraday a professor from Oxford? The same oxford that as I type right now a special wing of the university is studying Einstein's special theory of relativity and how it equates to time travel by manipulating the space time continuum using a large electromagnetism energy source?
ReplyDeleteFaraday and his rats, he was experimenting on them with time travel on Lost. In real life, oxford is mirroring Lost.
The writers did say that the conclusion will be believable and something that is possible. If they are studying time travel with electromagnets now and at Oxford, there is your believeablility.
ReplyDeleteI thought gerbils ran around in the wheel of their cages.
ReplyDeleteAnd I bet your favorite music is by the Captain and Tennille.
ReplyDeleteJust saying!
When season 6 finale comes along and it has nothing to do with virtual reality and aliens your site is in for a shit storm.
ReplyDeleteLooks like it came early. Just like your wife says about you. :D
ReplyDeleteHey quick question.
ReplyDelete-The girl the Daniel Faraday was doing experiments on was named Theresa right? Could this be the same lady that was boone's baby sitter that fell down the stairs?
And if it is the same theresa, then i guess its possible that it really wasn't daniel faraday's experiments that caused her to be in the state that she is, but its because she fell down the stairs and broke her neck. I know its a reach, but hey one can speculate.
ReplyDeleteAlso, another thing i just thought of. What if the psychic that told claire to take the plane (supposedly knowing it would crash on the island). well what if he really is fos like he says he is in one of the episodes about ecko. And in reality, Claire was suppose to meet Jin and Sun in LA, cause they couldnt have kids. And Jin and Sun were going to LA to start a new life, by living in the US and adopting claires baby. i am not sure how this could tie into the virtual reality, but i do agree with lotgk that there is some virtual reality element in this show. Anyway just trying to connect dots. (or make up stuff ahaha)
ReplyDeleteI do not remember the babysitter scene with Boone. What season was it from?
ReplyDeleteNice string of events with Jin and Sun with Claire's baby.
ReplyDeleteAnd don't worry, I make everything up as I go along.
The room was sealed - until the bad guy floating on the outside detonated a small bomb or grenade, or whatever it was and blew a hole in the side of the room...
ReplyDeleteAnd also, something else that came to me...
ReplyDeleteMaybe all those time that Desmond had "visions" of Charlie dying, they weren't really visions.
Perhaps they were memories of what he'd seen the last time they went through that particular loop of time...until Charlie finally died the way he was supposed to. Time correcting itself, as you suggested.
That would be a fascinating thing to see one day...an asian couple that came to America to adopt one of our babies.
ReplyDeleteSerena, I thought the opening was to small for Charlie to squeeze through.
ReplyDeleteAbout Desmond seeing Charlie die all those times, I cannot get a handle on that scenario. If you cannot change the past, then no matter what Desmond does, the results are the same. Not just Charlie dying, but Charlie dying by drowning in the sealed room warning Desmond it's not Penny's boat.
Perhaps that's where the phrase spoken by Hurley to jack, "You're not supposed to raise him" was meant for.
ReplyDeleteFood for thought for the upcoming season five finale.
ReplyDeleteBen, Jacob, Richard, Widmore, Faraday, and Locke. Can one or all of these men be the famed Egyptian god Horus, the son of Osiris and Isis? Legend has it that Horus was conceived magically after the death of his father (Osiris) and Isis (His mother) hid him away on an island to protect him from Set. He was worshipped as a child and was adamant to gain his mother's protection for the worshipper.
I am throwing this out there for the finale will reveal the front of the statue, the four toed statue that was shown briefly in several episodes so far. The statue is Taweret, the Egyptian goddess of motherhood and protector.
The Season five finale will be the beginning of the end for the time travel arc and will push season six in a new direction. a virtual reality direction. It's my time now. :D
And here's s sneak peak at Taweret.
ReplyDeleteEgyptian Goddess
oh, God, my head is spinning. But before I go to lie down, may I make one request?
ReplyDeleteWould it be possible to change the pictures of the Sexy Sirens in the side bars?
Why does lost have to be believable? Isn't that the meaning of sci-fi? It can be something that COULD happen but hasn't yet? Killer bees could take over the world but if someone told they were today I wouldn't believe it. Because it hasn't happened yet. Right???
ReplyDeleteChange them to what?
ReplyDeleteThe short answer! Because the writers said it would be.
ReplyDeleteAlthough Lost is walking the line of science fiction, it is still deemed a drama series. I believe the time travel arc is merely a ruse to catapult itself into the sixth and final season where all will be revealed. Hopefully anyway.
She ain't no Amy Winehouse!
ReplyDeleteIf its all about ancient egypt i'm gonna be fucking pissed off. 6 years for this shit. Please!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the gum ball Mickey! I hope it is about ancient Egypt now. :D
ReplyDeletehey how come your picture of the statue has 5 toes?
ReplyDeleteGood call Dee. This was the only photo in the same position as the one shown on the Lost island.
ReplyDeleteI have been combing over your Lost updates, good job btw, you have kept to it all these years. The season finale is a week away and the final season awaits us. I don't think the losy writers can introduce anything new to the viewing audience. That means that we have already seen what the secret is to lost. We just don't recognize it.
ReplyDeleteok...i hope this is easy to follow, because it's still jumbled in my own noggin.
ReplyDeleteWhat if Desmond isn't changing the past?
What if that's his present?
Exactly! I believe not only Desmond, but all the castaways are experiencing multiple time lines through virtual reality to gather data on them faster. That is why sometimes subjects, like Desmond have flashes of alter realities.
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts as well. If they continue with the time travel arc past the season six premiere, then they will need to stay on that course. That is why I believe you will see a shift by the season five finale.
ReplyDeleteAhhhh. Well now your theory is becoming more believable to me.
ReplyDeleteExcept, why?
Why them?
Why at all?
Serena,
ReplyDeleteWhy them? Easy answer. because they are cattle, rats, expendable. Also, they are a great cross section of human kind. Next time you are on an airplane, take a look around and imagine a Jack, Sawyer, Hurley, Kate, Sayid, Claire, Charlie, etc. The odds of these exact people from so many diverse ways of life is almost impossible of being on that exact plane. Unless, they never got on the plane, never crashed, never roughed it out on the island. Because they are all in a virtual reality environment where they are all free to roam, experience, love, hate, pain, pleasure, and even perceived death. It is the completely perfect environment for a lab experiment.